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VP Porn 2.0

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  1. Texas Steph

    Texas Steph I think I'm addicted to Vegas...
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    It practically dealt it to ya, hah!
    Congrats!!
     
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  2. VegasChic

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    28 YEARS?!?
    Congrats, I think this proves you are NOT a quitter! Wow....hope you get many more of these to make up for lost time!!! Incredible win with just the one card held!!
     
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  3. NickPappageorgio

    NickPappageorgio ¿Quién vigila a los vigilantes?
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    I played my first poker game (7-card stud) when I was 16. I played that game exclusively for the next 10 years. Usually home games, more often at casinos after I turned 18 (was the legal age for gambling back then in Louisiana). Once the "poker boom" hit I moved over to Hold 'Em, in part because it got hard to find a good stud game in LA casinos.

    I started switching from live poker to video poker around 2010, making the move full-time in 2014.

    I have a friend here at the office who swears that "I'm due" and he keeps saying once I hit one it's going to be an avalanche.

    I hope so, because that would not suck. But for now I'm happy with the one I've got. :)
     
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  4. tringlomane

    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    Congrats! Glad it's over for you! And on a progressive too for a hand pay is even better! But 3 million hands?!?! You've played in some really rigged casinos if that number is accurate.

    I know you said you played live poker too, but 3,000,000 hands without a royal in a fair VP game is about 1 in 373 decillion. That's 1 in 373,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

    In 7 stud, or holdem, I would think at worst royal odds after counting folding would be 1 in 150,000, probably closer to 1 in 100k. It's 1 in 30,940 if you play "no foldem" to the river always for either game.

    But 3 million hands without a royal if it "should happen" every 1 in 150,000 hands is still 1 in 485 million. Harder than Powerball with a single ticket.

    Also 3 million hands is about 50 years of live poker play at ~40 hrs/wk (2000 hours per year).

    VP is faster of course, but if you're playing single line at a good clip of 600 hands/hr that's still 5000 hours (2.5 years of "full time" play) for 3 million hands.

    But maybe you are a drinking/VP playing machine when you get to Louisiana or Vegas...

    Just for comparison, how many royals did you hit in those 3.79 million hands you tallied up @ted_nancy? 80-90ish? I KNOW you are a VP playing machine!
     
  5. ted_nancy

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    I stopped keeping track of royals a long time ago, but just out of curiosity I flipped through my last month's worth of pictures: 29 royals since April 29. That covers ~1.1 million hands... and a significant net loss. This is a tough game.

    I'm surprised at the royal probability in holdem though, I thought it would be lower, but I guess you're likely to at least see the flop with two suited high cards. I can't remember how many hands I had in my poker tracker database when I stopped playing online, but it was upwards of a million and the only royal I ever hit playing holdem was live at the Bellagio (I've probably played ~50 hours of live poker in my life). Maybe I just played super tight and nitty...
     
  6. NickPappageorgio

    NickPappageorgio ¿Quién vigila a los vigilantes?
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    Uh. Thanks? I think?
     
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  7. tringlomane

    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    You ran above average on Royals and still are down for that stretch? Dammit!!!

    Ahh yes, PokerTracker, those were the days. That's pretty crazy your only royal came live with that many online hands. I think I was overroyaled in online poker. I got 8 online, about half and half between Omaha8 and Hold'em. And no way I played a million hands of holdem.

    The best I done in a live holdem game was a 9 high SF in a home game, never got a holdem SF in a casino. In Omaha8 at the casino, I think I got one or two SFs.

    But the game I was really addicted to online was triple draw lowball. And a lot of times I would "snow" (bluff) a 4 to a royal draw after drawing 1 on the first draw. Never made a royal that way though. :( Never was dealt a royal either in that game over a few hundred thousand hands.

    My degeneracy is tame now vs. those days.
     
  8. Stardust1958

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    Hahaha!!! Hey Nick, congrats! Happy for ya'. So here's how I interpret tring's data… you are on the upward side of things from here on out! ROYALS every ten deals! Play big and play fast my friend. You're going to balance out the odds over the next 500 hands
     
  9. NickPappageorgio

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    Ha!! Thanks.

    I just hope I don't go another 28 years to get another one. By then I might be dead. In actuality though it's probably 3-4 years. I "switched" from live poker to video poker exclusively in 2014. Prior to that it was mainly live, and online poker.

    Right now though I don't care. I took @tringlomane 's numbers in good fun. All I know is I now have ONE.
     
  10. tringlomane

    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    Well, it's definitely easier to get royals in VP than live poker. You can't play 500 hands of live poker in an hour. ;) I wonder what a video of that pace would look like...:eek:

    Now we need to work on getting @Suekel one of these!
     
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    Not as good as a royal, but I had a couple of things to note today.

    For the first time ever, 2 straight flushes on a single deal. Yes I know the pic sucks.

    [​IMG]

    And then my Aces streak finally ended. Not the way I hope, but I'll take it since it was pretty long. I went since September without Aces (58 quads, 6 SF (2 today), and 1 royal, didn't mind that one). The longest drought of Aces that I can remember. Of course it came with a kicker. Shit!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hit this one 3 days ago while in a supermarket in Henderson.
     
  13. tringlomane

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    Nice quint! I got my first one of those this year too, totally unexpected.

    You wondered what paytables they had in supermarkets in Vegas, @Wanker751, well there you go! Lol

    Hint: it's basically the same as 9/6/4 Double Bonus.
     
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    That would have been $4000 in Atlantic City!
     
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    Woof
     
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    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    That game is such a bitch though. Haha Damn my local for making it the best bartop.
     
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  17. Rock'n Rick

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    Yes, but that game is 2 pair or better, and only pays $500 for a natural Royal Flush.
     
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  18. TIMSPEED

    TIMSPEED Pipe Grep Gambling
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    This ain’t no damn ho’ house.
    There was a time when I actually knew the strategy for 20/7 KoBJP, but alas all I find now is 17/7...but 15/7 my God, that's brutal!
     
  19. MatthewNL

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    Nice!!!

    Getting that first royal is so sweet. From my experience it is true that they come in packs too. I think that might be because people generally play a bit heavier coming off a royal because they are flush with cash. Also, Tring's math is obv real but it does not mean dry runs like you have experienced don't happen, and happen more than people think.

    The next time you are in Vegas if things are looking good consider playing way above your average denomination :)
     
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    Stopped by my local Parx in Philly last night and was happy to welcome this as my last hit of the night. One of those two hour sessions where you triple what you walk in with....
     
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