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Discussion in 'Health, Sports and Fitness' started by PACKER, Nov 6, 2016.

  1. Indianasoxfan

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    Don't know what to say Wille except I wish you all and only the best in 2017.
     
  2. Pea

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    And he needs to eat. The no eating is not healthy for the body. You could also be messing up your metabolism.

    Lasagna - I made it for Dave his last Christmas Eve, I thought it might be and it was, anyway. I was sick with anxiety the whole evening. We watched A Christmas Story, he was like the same age - his dad bought he & his brother one of those BB guns to share, he loved that movie. I can't watch it.

    That's a nice memory you have, Willie. But please eat this week!
     
  3. Willie

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    Thanks Pea. I overdid the eating in Vegas and I'm trying to make up for it now... I saw how Dvan quickly lost his Vegas "gain weight" and I'm trying to do the same. I was there 11 nights so I have some making up to do....

    Pea, I'm sorry that I didn't know of your past pain. Emotional pain can hurt and then hurt some more. I'm sorry that you've endured the pains of loss....
    Let me and all of us know how we can help Pea....
     
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    Awww, you guys help all the time! I enjoy reading everybody's posts on this board. Didn't mean to be so sad; your post struck a chord with me, and it's nice to hear from somebody who understands.

    Anyway, I'm at +2.6 after this summer's 6 lb. loss. I seem to be able to lose that 3rd pound, but then things fit better and I go lax again. However, if I can get through this darkness and the eating season with not gaining any more than that, I'll be happy!

    Has this happened to anybody else - I overeat or eat something out of the ordinary like a fried fish sandwich, and then I'll lose weight. This has happened too many times to be coincidence. Maybe I am shaking up my metabolism ?
     
  5. Willie

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    Pea, it is OK to be sad especially for the right reasons. When we feel the pain of loss it is , in part, because we did love so purely and so genuinely from our hearts the people that we now miss. The experiences that touched our hearts with this person and the warm glows that our hearts felt when we were with this person remind us that emotions are beautiful and the pain and loss we feel is because we put our hearts right into the middle of that relationship...

    Remember in the movie 'The Wizard of Oz".. The Tin Man wanted a heart. The Wizard told the Tin Man that hearts will never be practical until they are unbreakable..... The Wizard then told the Tin Man " A HEART IS NOT JUDGED BY HOW MUCH IT LOVES,,,,, A HEART IS JUDGED BY HOW MUCH IT IS LOVED BY OTHERS".!!! Pretty deep..........


    On a lighter note. A big part and factor in metabolism is our hormones. People think that we just have testosterone or estrogen.... We actually have about 60 different hormones and men and women share most of them... Protein effects hormones which then effect metabolism....
     
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    @Willie brother you can still eat food and lose at the same time no need to fast for 4 days in a row that is just to the point of being silly. I know you want to lose any Vegas gains but as you know it will come off over next week or 2 when going back to the normal scheduled program. Just be patient and enjoy life don't become a slave who is eating worse then a prisoner come the holidays.
     
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    I was just wondering the other day if I was eating enough protein..

    I wonder how Hoofy is ?
     
  8. Willie

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    I'm worried about Hoofy too,,,,,,,,,,,,,, she doesn''t answer private messages and is not posting lately... My positive hope is that she is just too busy with her college aged kids home for the holidays...

    Pea, in general, shoot for .34 to .36 grams of protein per pound on your ideal body weight per day.... so if you are 100 lbs. you need 34 to 36 grams of protein per day.... if you are 150 lbs. you need 51 to 54 grams of protein a day... amounts go up with rigorous exercise or body-building etc...
     
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    I'll be honest. Today's run kind of sucked. Some days you've got it. Some days you don't. The intervals weren't too bad as it was an interval of 5 running, 8 running and then 5 running. The walking intervals in between were needed today. Perhaps Friday will yield better results.


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  10. Willie

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    Water Retention,,,,, Weight gain...Las Vegas..

    For over 20-25 years now whenever I go to Las Vegas , within 3 to 4 days of being there my legs and ankles start to swell up and my mid-section a little too....

    Las Vegas gives us a nasty combination of dehydration mixed with excessive sodium intake in all of the foods there..... We enhance the dry, arid, desert conditions of Vegas with drinking alcohol and soda etc...... and extremely salty foods...

    I was just there for 11 nights (home for 6 nights now) and my legs and ankles are now finally back to near normal... maybe 15% to go still....

    I've been urinating like Horse Triple Crown Winner Secretariat all week... Gallons upon gallons of urine... This has been the way for me for 20-25 years now and only on my Vegas trips...

    So I've spent the last few hours researching this because I don't want to go through this again with fluid retention and weight gain on Vegas trips....

    I found what seems to be the best all natural product available to prevent and eliminate fluid retention naturally... It is called "Expelis"...


    The list of all the ingredients is from plants and berries and is a natural diuretic made to work fairly quickly...

    I'm hoping to take this only on my Vegas trips as this is when I suffer the fluid retention and weight gain... .

    here is a link of review,,, there are many different links that say the same.... just thought this may help me and maybe yous guys and gals too..

    https://www.consumerhealthdigest.co...utm_term=Expelis&utm_campaign=Water_Retention
     
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    Forgot to post this morning. Did a little Christmas Eve/Hanukkah run. Boy was it humid today. Lower 70's but muggy. But a good run overall. Legs don't feel as tired as they have been lately after a run. We will see how they feel on Monday. Haven't decided on a Monday run or rest an extra day. Vegas next week is going to throw off my rotation.

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    Is that marathon next week already?

    Willie, are you still peeing like a Clydesdale?
     
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    Nope, urination is now normal again. Legs are normal again. Too much sodium in Vegas foods and we don't drink enough water there...
     
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    Got the men's vitamins today took a pack today so hopefully can feel some energy or different as week goes on. this is going to be hell week with holidays eating and also Vegas new year's trip. Gonna really stick to the basics for the 3 days home this week.
     
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    My worst is over, I hope. I gained 2 lbs. Ugh. Think I ate ok, I didn't have pizza on CME as planned, but think some surgery treats and the surgary alcoholic drinks did me in. Plus I don't exercise much now that I can't be in the yard except for shoveling. Need to do something about that.

    How did everybody else do?

    I did pee off a pound between weigh-ins this morning (was in disbelief about the first one, haha)
     
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    Didn't do to good myself pea..

    Disappointed in myself but 5 days of non eating healthy and drinking will do it.

    Was at 175.71 on 22nd. Now up to 180.4 this morning. Hopefully be back down to buffer zone area before leaving Thursday night
     
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    I have been taking them for months now. Really seems to be good stuff. But the real test will be when I take a blood test in jan.
     
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    I gained 10 pounds over the holidays, ugggh.
     
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    Plugging away at the couch to 5K. Today was a 22 minute solid run with a 5 min walk to warm up and Another 5 min cool down. Felt great to be honest. The extra day off really helped plus it cooled off today as we've had a very Christmas down south. I probably could have grinded out a full 5K without stopping but it's best to abide by the intervals. I'm really paranoid about overuse injuries as I've been prone to them in the past.


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  20. Willie

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    C&P...link..

    It is not likely that a single meal containing a high fat food, such as olives, or a high cholesterol food, such as cheese, would affect the results of your cholesterol test when consumed 24 to 48 hours beforehand. Though complete digestion of a meal may take more than 70 hours, dietary fat and cholesterol components are only measurable for approximately ten hours after eating. The twelve-hour fast rule has been deemed sufficient to prevent the influence of a single meal on the cholesterol test.

    What is much more likely to influence your test results is a sustained pattern of high fat eating. Research has shown that blood cholesterol changes brought on by dietary cholesterol intake are less significant than changes brought on by saturated and trans fats in the diet. Saturated fat intake, through high fat animal products such as cheese, raises "bad" low density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol without impacting "good" high density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol. Trans fats have a more negative impact on blood cholesterol, because they not only increase LDL, but also lower HDL cholesterol. On the other hand, some fats have positive effects on blood cholesterol. Monounsaturated fats, such as the fat found in olives, and polyunsaturated fats, such as safflower oil, raise HDL and lower LDL cholesterol.

    If you neglected to follow the twelve-hour fasting rule by having a midnight snack of olives and cheese, your cholesterol test results will be affected. Scientists at the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute have concluded that LDL will be underestimated by approximately two to four percent and HDL levels underestimated by about one to four percent. In addition, triglyceride (TG) levels, another component of the cholesterol test, will be overestimated by roughly 20 mg/dL. Though small, these numbers might seem more meaningful if your measurements are borderline high.

    If your cholesterol test yielded less than desirable results, your health care provider is likely to recommend dietary modification and will repeat the cholesterol test after six weeks.

    http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/cholesterol-screening-test

    Accurate cholesterol test results are an important factor in determining your risk for heart disease. More than 35 million Americans have cholesterol levels high enough to put them at significant risk for cardiovascular disease. You may need to watch what you eat before a cholesterol check because some components of a standard cholesterol test are sensitive to food intake.

    Lipid Panel
    A lipid panel typically measures several substances associated with cholesterol, including LDL, HDL, triglycerides and total cholesterol. Food does not immediately affect LDL and HDL. Total cholesterol and triglycerides are sensitive to food intake. You will need to fast for 9 to 12 hours before having your blood drawn for a lipid profile. This means you cannot have anything, except water, to eat or drink before your blood test.

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    Triglycerides
    Food elevates triglyceride levels. Your triglyceride levels can rise 5 to 10 times higher after a meal, according to LabTestsOnline.org. Most laboratories instruct you to fast before having your triglycerides tested. There is some recent interest in measuring nonfasting triglyceride levels because they may be more indicative of a person's normal triglyceride status.

    Food and Triglycerides
    Triglycerides are especially sensitive to sugary foods, excess calories and fat. Most fat in foods and in the body is in the chemical form of triglycerides, according to the American Heart Association. Do not indulge in sweet desserts before having your blood drawn if you don't normally eat sweets. Your body converts excess calories into triglycerides and stores them in fat cells until the body needs energy. Avoid over-eating in the days before having your blood tested to get an accurate triglyceride measurement.

    Normal Diet
    You should eat normally in the week prior to having your cholesterol check to provide an accurate picture of your risk for heart disease. Avoid foods high in trans fat, saturated fat and cholesterol if you don't normally eat fatty foods. Foods high in saturated fat and cholesterol are the main cause of high cholesterol.

    Alcohol
    Alcohol causes a dramatic rise in triglycerides. You should not drink alcohol for at least 24 hours before having your blood checked for cholesterol levels. Wine may increase HDL, or good cholesterol, but you should not drink any alcohol before your blood test.

    Risks
    Eating food or drinking beverages, especially alcohol, will elevate triglycerides and total cholesterol levels.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/326114-what-not-to-eat-before-cholesterol-check/




    And 10 Tips to Manage it Better
    Getting a blood result with a high total cholesterol, for most people, unfortunately means that their doc’s about to follow it with “Here’s a prescription for Lipitor.” This is because the medical profession is obsessed with lowering your cholesterol because of misguided theories about cholesterol and heart disease. Why would we want to lower it when the research actually shows that three-quarters of people having a first heart attack, have normal cholesterol levels (1), and when data over 30 years from the well-known Framingham Heart Study showed that in most age groups, high cholesterol wasn’t associated with more deaths? In fact, for older people, deaths were more common with low cholesterol (2). Therefore it is very possible that statins are being prescribed based on an incorrect hypothesis, and the problem is, they are not harmless. They can have lots of unpleasant and health-damaging side effects, including muscle pains, increased abdominal fat, mental fogginess and increased diabetes risk. So I encourage you to question the status quo, especially when the statin prescription feels like a doctor’s knee-jerk response. Ask how necessary a statin really is and if perhaps your cholesterol concerns can be addressed in a healthier, drug-free way.
    So, here’s what you need to know when your doc sits you down for a cholesterol talk:

    1. Your Doctor May be Basing Your Diagnosis on Data That’s a Half-century-old
    Hard to believe but today’s mainstream thinking on cholesterol is largely based on an influential but flawed 1960s study which concluded that men who ate a lot of meat and dairy had high levels of cholesterol and of heart disease. This interpretation took root, giving rise to what became the prevailing wisdom of the last 40+ years: lay off saturated fats and your cholesterol levels and heart disease risk will drop. This helped set off the stampede to create low-fat/no-fat Frankenfoods in the lab and launch the multibillion-dollar cholesterol-lowering drug business in hopes of reducing heart disease risk. Did it work? No. Instead of making people healthier, we’ve wound up with an obesity and diabetes epidemic that will wind up driving up rates of heart disease – hardly the result we were hoping for.

    2. Pssst. Guess what? You Actually Need Cholesterol
    For decades we’ve been sold the story that dietary cholesterol is bad and that it gets into your bloodstream and clogs your arteries. This view has affected what we eat, what we worry about, what drugs we take and it has become the main focus of preventive medicine in Western medicine. The problem is, this depiction of cholesterol as this artery clogging-fat is totally oversimplified and actually false. And the notion that your total cholesterol number needs to be low is not only downright wrong, it’s dangerous too. Cholesterol helps make key hormones, synthesizes vitamin D, it is an essential component of cell membranes and we need it for brain and nerve function. It is needed for many functions in the body and is essential for life! And we now know that elevated cholesterol is not the cause of heart attacks – so don’t fall for that line.

    3. Your “Numbers” Don’t Even Measure Cholesterol, Nor How Bad It Is.
    The dirty little secret is that what’s measured on your standard cholesterol test or “lipid profile” tells the doc very little about the actual state of your health. And there is no such thing as ‘good’ or ‘bad’ cholesterol…there is just cholesterol. The typical lipid profile test simply estimates how much triglyceride, HDL (high-density lipoprotein) and LDL (low-density lipoprotein) are in the blood. Both HDL and LDL are lipoproteins, which are carriers of cholesterol and triglycerides, as cholesterol and fats are not water soluble and need to be transported in our bloodstream. In addition, the test doesn’t tell us a thing about these lipoprotein’s very important particle size – as in, how much of that LDL number is made up of the more benign “large particle” fluffy kind and how much is the more troublesome small particle kind. Both the OK stuff and the gnarly stuff get lumped in together under a big, old, non-specific LDL umbrella – making the average cholesterol test, at best, woefully inadequate and imprecise. Consequently, you may have blood teeming with the less alarming large particle LDL, and still get signed up for a statin. And with the new controversial – and in my book dangerous – “wider net” guidelines proposed by American College of Cardiology and the American Heart Association, expect that to happen a lot more. The new guidelines will make an estimated additional 15 million more adults (plus a few kids as well) “eligible” to take statins in an effort to drug down their numbers, regardless of what type of LDL they have. Bad news for people, good news if you’re buying drug company stock.

    4. Insist That Your Doctor Dig Deeper
    If your doc is saying your cholesterol is too high, get a second opinion, not necessarily from another doctor, but from another, more detailed test than the standard lipid profile. If you have a family history of heart disease or other risk factors getting a more complete picture is even more vital. Press your doctor to review and assess the other often overlooked but possibly more important factors that can shed a brighter light on your unique situation – namely tests which look at hs-C-reactive protein, particle sizes of the LDL cholesterol (sometimes called NMR Lipoprofile), Lipoprotein (a) and serum fibrinogen. These measurable physical clues will help fill in a few more pieces of the puzzle, and enable you and your doctor to develop a more customized program to help manage your risk, with or without cholesterol drugs. If your doc’s not interested in looking under the medical hood, then it may be time to switch to a new mechanic.

    5. For Many Statin Studies, the Fix is Usually in Well Before the Results Are
    When you get right down to it, it’s hard to take most of the pro-statin studies seriously when so many of them are either sponsored by the drug companies themselves or done by researchers and universities whose labs are financed by Big Pharma either directly or through “donations.” In fact, the studies were mostly done by drug companies with a history of fraud in reporting results. So naturally, it’s tough to get to the truth of what statins do and don’t do for health. What happens instead is that well-meaning doctors get snowed in by positive statin studies because, as the song goes, they “accentuate the positive, and eliminate the negative, latch on to the affirmative and don’t mess with Mr. In-between!” Making matters worse? It’s also not uncommon for the doctors involved with setting the statin guidelines to have a stake in the companies that produce them, so small wonder the drugs are pushed on the public with such enthusiasm.

    6. If Mom and Dad Made It into Their 90s, Think Twice
    Unless you’re at high risk for heart problems, have been diagnosed with heart disease, stroke or for instance, have a worrisome family history, particularly of early heart attack and death, it’s more than likely you may not need cholesterol-lowering drugs. If high cholesterol runs in the family as well as longevity, then you too probably have less to worry about too. Regardless, don’t be afraid to push back and tell your doc you’d prefer to avoid drug therapies. Assuming you’re not in a mission critical situation, discuss the possibility of trying a more holistic approach to get your numbers down to what is considered a normal or healthy zone based on all of your specific risk factors, not just your cholesterol numbers. If your risk factors are high and you and your doctor feel you must take a statin, request the lowest dose possible for your situation and take a high-quality CoQ10 supplement to help counteract some of the negative side-effects. Add to that as many lifestyle changes as possible to help cut risk and slow the progression of any heart disease you may already have.

    7. Stack the Deck and Play Your Cards Right
    Though high levels of small-particle, LDL may be a significant risk factor, it’s one of many that play a role in the progression of heart disease. But the science is imprecise. For example, there are many people with high LDL who are otherwise healthy and millions with so-called “normal” readings who are still at risk for a heart attack. In fact, on the standard cholesterol test usually done, your HDL and triglyceride levels are more important numbers to look at than LDL. Ultimately, the more HDL-boosting steps you take, the better the odds, and if you’re able to do it without medicating the numbers, so much the better.

    So what to do next? Here are 10 essential steps to take to help stabilize and improve your situation and reduce risk overall:
    1. Eat a Fantastic Diet

    Shoot for a diet that consists of whole, organic or locally grown foods, plus some grass-fed, humanely-raised animal products. Avoid factory farmed meats and keep processed foods to a minimum, as they’re anything but whole!

    2. Eliminate Sugar and Refined Carbohydrates
    They’re no good for your body, brain or heart, and are what increase the more dangerous triglycerides and small LDL particles.

    3. Avoid Man-made Fats But Don’t Be Afraid of Good Sources of Fat
    There is no good evidence of a link between saturated fat and heart disease. In fact, when we eat good sources of saturated fat, we often increase the large fluffy benign LDL particles. And yes, please eat the whole egg, but make sure they come from pasture-raised chickens, which have been allowed to roam free, eating plants and insects.

    4. Bring on the Shrubbery
    If you want to improve your lipid profile, eat plants and lots of them!

    5. Eliminate No-fat and Low-fat Everything
    If the label says no or low-fat, leave it on the shelf. First of all, it’s likely to be a processed food but more importantly, no and low-fat products are usually high in sugars, which actually boost the small more dangerous LDL, the last thing you want to do!

    6. Add a Little Sauerkraut
    Or for that matter, any fermented veggie to help fortify the resident gut bacteria that play an important role in protecting your arteries against inflammation

    7. Go a Bit Nuts
    And don’t forget the olives. Aside from being delicious, nuts and olives are thought to have the power to stop LDL from damaging arterial walls.

    8. Ditch Your Vices
    If you smoke, stop. No exceptions. If you drink, avoid hard liquor. A small glass of red wine with dinner every other day for most people is fine. A bottle every day or two is not.

    9. Move Like Your Life Depends On It
    Because it does. Better yet, more movement helps boost HDL and flush bad LDL out of your system.

    10. Keep Your Mouth Clean
    Poor dental health increases instability in the coronary arteries, which in turn boosts the odds of a heart attack.

    For more thoughts on the topic, check out this excellent piece by Joseph Hooper on When to Say No to Your Doctor.

    http://www.drfranklipman.com/7-thin...n-your-doc-says-your-cholesterol-is-too-high/
     
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