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Would a new mask mandate make you cancel your next trip?

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  1. IrishDave

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    If you think anything like that is executable in the US, just look at the drama about requiring voter id
     
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    Good point @IrishDave
     
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    To be fair, that's a constitutional issue. Vaccination requirements are different -- you can't even start kindergarten without a DTaP and an MMR, and that's been the case for years.
     
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    The COVID vaccine will be mandated once fully approved (about 6 months away). They can’t mandate it with the emergency use authorization.
     
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    My position is that it (actually both issues raised) is (are) a state specific issue per Jacobson v. Massachusetts. Although, nothing would surprise me in the present clown world. My preference is to keep this a state issue. And I suspect most states, especially higher population states, would mandate this. I'd be fine with this. I would hope they would wait until this is no longer deemed experimental. Nevada, under present leadership and political climate would likely have a state mandate. As with many things, it's going to grow complicated. At risk persons, pregnant persons, etc.
     
  6. IrishDave

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    I honestly think it's about the same, they are both state powers. Article I, Section 4 and Article II, Section 1 both delegate the regulation of elections to the states, just as public safety/police powers are relegated to the states (10th Amendment, I think...)
     
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    This is a great conversation. I appreciate all of your input. Well done.
     
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    Yes, but it's not just an "I don't feel like it" exemption.

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    This is true!!
     
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    Given that this is VegasFanatics.com and not NerdyLawyers.com, I'll just say it's an interesting question and leave it at that.

    Bottom line, I just want first, for people to be safe and healthy, and second, for people to be able to have jobs and support themselves.

    EDIT: And to play blackjack!
     
  11. IrishDave

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    I am nerdy, but I am NOT a lawyer!!
     
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    just finished a 2 week jury duty...be really glad you aren't a lawyer lol
     
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    As much as I would like to see it the party occupying the WH would likely see it as political suicide.
     
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    Agree....and we certainly know the other party won't either. The last occupants cult members are the reason we have so many unvaccinated.
     
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    As a lawyer myself... I gotta second this.
     
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    That's a fine idea as long as you kicked anyone out that wasn't vaccinated.

    The problem with "only the unvaccinated have to wear masks indoors" is how are you going to keep track of who is vaccinated/unvaccinated once you let them in the door?!?! A reasonable percentage of the unvaccinated will take their mask off once inside, especially since they probably will be drinking/smoking because Vegas obviously.

    You were in Vegas this week. How many people were wearing masks indoors? Do you think 90%+ of those unmasked people were vaccinated? If so, I got a bridge to sell you...
     
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    Everyone says "How are you going to keep track of vaccinated/unvaccinated" like it's rocket science. Show the card, just like getting IDed. The cruise lines are currently doing this, and what they do is once you show proof of vaccination, you get a wristband. Idk what the Vegas version of this is, maybe when you check-in, if you voluntarily show your card, you get a wrist band or something and you don't have to wear a mask around the property. Is it a foolproof system? NO! Could someone think of something better? Yes, I am NO expert.

    I figure SOME sort of new system with flaws is better than working with the honor system, which you know there is no honor anymore.
     
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    That was exactly what my idea was in my previous posts. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to come up with a system.
     
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    More than likely, "they" have tossed this idea around, and (so far) decided no, it's too much.
    As in, too much manpower. Too much babysitting. Too much enforcement too handle. Too many $$$ to find and hire more staff. Remember when everyone had to mask up? Well, they were also at reduced capacity. It was one agenda... make sure everyone has a mask on. So, they had to have staff at every entrance, at the elevators, at the lounges, and roaming the floors, specifically to enforce this rule. And again, this was with fewer patrons than normal.

    In order to implement a "proof of vaccine, no mask needed" system, the casinos would need to ramp up staff for the sole purpose of enforcement. More staff than even before, when it was just about masks. Now, you need folks at every entrance scanning vaccine cards/ cards on phones. And let's just say they're all legitimate cards.... anywho, you've got a line up to scan cards and put wristbands on wrists. Then you have people wanting to pass thru who already have a wristband. Again, let's say those are legit, too. Then, you have those that want to pass thru who are wearing a mask. It is one big mess, but ok.

    Now you've got staff on the floor, to monitor the hordes that made it inside. What is their job? My guess is, to look for people without a mask and make sure they have a wristband.
    If they scammed the guy at the door with a fake card or swiped a wristband, you don't know. It's not foolproof, so more than likely you STILL have unvaccinated peeps in your casino, not wearing a mask. The ones that waltzed in with a mask may or may not keep it on, may just sit at the bars (with little to no enforcement) or decide to balk. And the crowds are dense. They just won't be able to enforce the masks like before, imo.

    So you've got stressed out floor staff, and super stressed out entrance/elevator staff, and stressed out guests just trying to get in, and the casino hotels and eateries are already short-staffed as it is..... they want to avoid it all, if possible. "Just get wristbands" sounds easy enough, but I think it would be anything but "easy". If they do anything, they'll just make masks mandatory again. Still a chore and a PITA for them to enforce, but not near as much.
     
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    Yeah I understand WHY they aren't doing it, but you can bet if they were going to get shut down, they would figure it out. Have the people at Chick-fil-A look at the problem and they would get a streamlined solution, GUARANTEED
     
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