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Ceasars Ent Comps Bad?

Discussion in 'Comps - General Comp Discussion' started by Imnofool, May 29, 2017.

  1. Imnofool

    Imnofool Silver

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    Is it just me or is Ceasars Entertainment comps horrible? I had been 7stars for a number of years, and always had a host that always comp what I needed. I saw that change a few years ago when they seemed to really start sticking to your earned reward credits. I stopped going to harrahs a few years ago when they went to non smoking and I lost 7 stars, and still always have remained diamond. Well on my trip last year I stayed at a CET property, rolled some serious money through not only the property I was staying at but also other CET's. Upon checkout the host who actually offered to pick me up and bring me back to airport in a limo had the charge on my room for the limo, and then the host only agreed to cover one way.

    Now fast forward to now. I do have all kinds of offers for rooms and other events through CET, called to book the room asked about free show tickets and the host told me will have to charge to the room and check after my play. I am so shocked and amazed that I am set on not gambling at any CET.

    I have been gambling a long time and have never seen anything like this. I gave Bellagio a smaller portion of the play and need ip making platinum and have also now recieved $1300 free play $800 food, 5 nights in suite, limo, and tix for cirque and another show in town. I already wasn't planning on using CET room and was just booking for a shopping certificate.

    In conclusion I really think they need to get a grip, worst comp program in casino history.
     
  2. Big Slotter/kdk

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    IMO I think they are pretty bad in Vegas, but okay in other places.

    Never an issue getting a comped room anytime in Vegas, and I fluctuate between a low level and mid level Diamond each year. I get lots of emails daily for Vegas offers too.
    But with the exception of an annual birthday that's pretty good, I never get anything that would entice me to even go to Vegas. An extra $40 in freeplay for one day of my stay isn't going to excite me, it will be gone in less than 5 minutes. Plus I find their slots/VP to be about as tight as you can find there.

    Now some of their other properties can be pretty good. I get some nice offers to go to my local Harrah's here- Ak Chin- sometimes as much as $200 in freeplay per day plus food money, bonus points, etc. I end up with a lot of extra points from these trips that I end up just comping myself off them on my Vegas trips.
     
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  3. newmans

    newmans Mayflower Fury
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    CET changed their limo policy a few years ago. 7 Stars used to get airport limos and it did not hit your room folio, it's no longer the case.

    When you mention rolling serious money through.....everyone one has their own definition of serious money. I would reference theo so people can compare apples to apples.

    The value of my offers dropped a couple of years ago, as did most people. ADT rules the roost for offers. I'm
    7 stars, but know low level Diamonds with higher ADTs.

    As far as comps are concerned, I never sweat that my folio will be comped on the back end. I consider myself a mid level table player with trip theo between 3500 - 7000. I get airport limos, food and beverage, room/suites, spa salon, retail, show tickets (including charge backs). Their TR program gives me DA2 airfare for $750 and 7* airfare for $1200. I've stayed at Cosmo and IMO, the comps generated for the same table play is a fraction of what I get at CET. My understanding is that Cosmo requires a $50k loss for backend airfare. That certainly is not the case at CET.

    I don't care about upfront Food and Beverage as long as the back end comp takes care of everything.

    I'm sure others will disagree, but if you compare the top tier of mlife( platimum, since noir is touchy feely) and Cosmo to CET.....I think I get a bigger bang for my play at CET. But stay at a property you like, feel lucky and appreciated.
     
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  4. Imnofool

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    Not sure what my theo is but while there did session of 10 hours with average bet of probably $8 when I was there. For about 3 days.

    I am no longer 7 stars, but remember plenty of airfare, annual trip expenses. I never took advantage of those trips.

    It's a lot more comfortable knowing that a majority of expenses are taken care of up front.

    I did have great experiences back in the day. I couldgo to a majority of top New Orleans restaurants and get $500 comp per night easily, but it seems so tight currently from back in the day, and yes indeed maybe the local location had play in it.

    I guess ultimately I have been turned off from their sour approach (also attitude of hosts, VIP) and will probably not focus on giving them the business, but who knows I can end up anywhere gambling.

    Thanks for input.
     
  5. tringlomane

    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    I guess we'll let you join...
    I am guessing this is a typo, but if not, I know why your comps evaporated. ;)
     
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  6. Imnofool

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    Combination of many beers and typing on the stupid ipad.

    3 separate session each were about 10-12 hrs each of nothing but pushing the button. Played $10, $5 2 bet machine along with lots of pennies/nickels betting $5-10.

    I did build of plenty of reward credits and have received plenty of free play and shopping certificates in the mail.

    I am not familiar with too many stats other than maybe total coin rolled through and am familiar with each casinos accumulated point system. Maybe it would help to become a smarter gambler by paying attention to stats more often.

    Ultimately I have received a completely different approach from CET compared to years ago. And I have noticed that CET has become very petty and more like a big corp(which they are) with strict procedures. I mean come on it took 3 calls and messages along with an email to finally hear from host, but maybe it's me I could just be an asshole.
     
  7. VegasMonkey

    VegasMonkey the pleepleus
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    Coin-in is the stat that is most important. I'm assuming this is all slots and not video poker? If so, that should generate a good chunk of theo.
     
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  8. Imnofool

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    Ok thanks. Yes all slots.

    I have concluded that I will stick with Bellagio because of their upfront easy way of putting trip together.

    I will probably try Cosmo, I see lots of people like it here. Do you know if Cosmo matches free play?
     
  9. VegasMonkey

    VegasMonkey the pleepleus
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    If you're new, Cosmo will do an offer match.
     
  10. Grid!

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    You are not alone. I actually walked away from Total Rewards in January of 2015. That was when the bankruptcy thing hit and they chopped almost everyone's free play in half. I know I went from $450 (I was Diamond with good coin-in, all slots) to $225 in free play in Vegas. A few months later it was $200.

    So I stayed away, I was getting more from better clubs in town. So why go back? Over 2 years later and my free play offers are next to nothing. No visits from me, you would have thought they would try to entice me back with something. nope. I still have nearly every night free at any casino they own. But why bother.

    As for Bellagio coming at you hard, you are new to them. They are giving you a feeler offer. They want to see what you can do, on property and comped. Sadly those offers usually get reduced unless you blow the doors off the joint.

    The main problem with CET is that they give away rooms to anyone. So their casinos are full, with most players being low level. That chews up money and space for the bigger ballers.

    If you play big, go to a better club. See what Mlife or Wynn will offer you for your play. Find a host at Venetian and see what you can pull. Shop around. Thats what I did.

    The long term play for CET is not bright. They have the highest holds on their machines and the properties, in general, are among the most in need of rehab on the strip.
     
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  11. Imnofool

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    Bellagio is Mlife, and did get my current offers off of rolling some coin walking over there twice on my last visit. I do like that basically everything is covered up front and the only thing I may need on the back end is maybe some additional food.

    I am staying there long enough that I will most likely stick to bellagio or other mgm properties, so I should probably meet their expectations.

    I may try venetian or Cosmo also, have never given either of those play. I will be staying away from CET properties.
     
  12. Grid!

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    I know Bellagio is Mlife, I'm Platinum with them ;)

    Honestly, once you switch to Mlife its so hard to go back to liking anything Total Rewards. TR its $5 coin-in to earn a penny in comp, less than a penny if you turn your points into free play. MLife (outside of the stupid specialty slots) its $3 coin-in and that gets you 1 penny in free play AND 1 penny in comps. They add up really fast.

    The resorts are better, the properties cleaner, the machines looser & the dining hugely better. The only thing I do miss about being Diamond was the lounges. I will give them that. But the money I save while slotting could buy me all the redbull and cold chicken wings I want!

    I hear Cosmo is very fair with comps, and I love the rooms and location. I just hate being stuck to one place on vacation. With the bigger clubs you can hop around and still earn comps.
     
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  13. newmans

    newmans Mayflower Fury
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    Is it mlife that table players do not earn any express comps?
     
  14. VegasMonkey

    VegasMonkey the pleepleus
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    They don't earn them in Vegas. They do elsewhere.
     
  15. Imnofool

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    Yeah sorry, when you posted about Bellagio then said try bigger clubs like MLife I didn't think u knew that, I should have seen your tag on icon that's said mlife platinum (of course du know bellagio is platinum).

    Yes I agree with you on the mlife comps, they do seem to add up better than any casino I have ever played at. After I go on a binge I am amazed at how much free play and express comp earned.
     
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