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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by PACKER, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. PACKER

    PACKER Las Vegas DEGENERATE! Are you?
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    You want to know how to save time stress and MONEY when leasing or purchasing a new car then come to me. But when it comes to computers, i need lots of help.

    I have a dell desktop xps 8900. 8gb ram 1 TB memory with a i7 6700 processor. Nvidia geforce gtx745..

    All works great with gaming that my son plays. Although fortnite and minecraft lag sometimes but really rarely. My internet connection is good with 40 mbps download and 5.20 mbps upliad speed.
    Running windows 10..

    My problem is storage. Of 917gb of hard drive storage i now have 60 gb left. I have backed all my video, pics, documents and whatever else i wanted to an external hard drive storage device (ssd by the way)..

    If i buy another hard drive and keep my current c drive in there should I use it as simply more space? Should i take out the orig hard drive and put in the operating system again into the new 3TB storage (hard drive) along with transferring 600gb of videos, pics and documents...
    It seems to me if I just add the new hard drive all I'm doing is the same thing as if I had an external hard drive right?
    If i do add a new hard drive for storage does it have to match the old one exactly? I have a sata3 7200rpm. I know the size of 3.5" needs to be the same. Looks like most come with 64 or 128 cache. I don't think mine has that. I think the cache is stored in the system not the hard drive. Does it matter? Also do I need to get more ram out that doesn't matter? Im using very little of the ram even when gaming.

    I want to upgrade the graphics card to a 1050 or something like that, will my internal power source be strong enough? I think it's 450watts or something.

    Can i upgrade the i7 processor? Should i?

    Hope I made sense. Sorry don't know much about this. Any questions?
    Thanks for your potential help..

    Priorities
    1. Storsge
    2. graphics card
    3. Processor
    4. Did i say STORAGE!



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  2. Sindustry

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    I’m no expert, but I’ll pretend to be one lol

    1. Storage...go Cloud. Otherwise, u can add more drives and give them a new drive letter to save all your porn (joking) and docs lol.

    2. graphics...hopefully prices have come down from the crypto mining craze

    3. Processor...ok, now you should think about buying a new computer altogether

    4. More storage...Cloud
     
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  3. PACKER

    PACKER Las Vegas DEGENERATE! Are you?
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    First, how are you buddy?

    Yep i see you know about the porn taking up a lot of space lol..

    No cloud for me but I thank you..

    Hope to see you soon..
     
  4. Royal Flusher

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    It would be good to find out if you can reclaim some storage on your HD. Run Disk Cleanup and see if you can free some space.

    You can:
    a) buy another internal or external HD and use it as extra space. This is the path of least fucking around. It doesn't matter if it has different specs than your existing HD in terms of rotation speed, cache size, or even form factor (i.e. 3.5" size) as long as it is Sata. Anything new will be.

    b) you could get a big HD and clone your existing 1TB drive onto it. Then you'd put your 1TB aside as a backup in case Windows 10 gets pooched on your new big drive. Cloning is not uncommon, but can be tricky, I'd get a shop to do it for you.

    c) put more stuff on the cloud - not a fan of having stuff *only* on the cloud

    When you do buy a drive, get a big one. If you think you need 3TB get 6TB. :)
     
  5. Volcombrdr28

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    Hey Packer. If you want to speed up your OS I would suggest looking into SSD. Even though they're much smaller than HDD (2.5" versus 3.5" you can get a mounting bracket, that allows it to fit in the 3.5" drive location. Other than that, if you were to just swap out its essentially the same as you described in terms of having an external hard drive. The SSD is constructed by chips or pens, which means no moving parts to operate as you would in the HDD allowing for faster times to start up your computer, opening up documents, etc. I installed this when I built my computer and noticed the speed pretty significantly.
     
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    My 2 cents: as suggested by Volcombrdr28, get an SSD drive to use as your windows and programs/games drive, that will really speed up your system. You can than reuse your current 1TB disk and add whatever big ass disk drive (internal/external) you want to provide you with lots of storage. Royal flusher's advice seems solid there :) If it is just for storage of files / movies/ music/ whatever, don't even bother with an SSD since the larger ones can get real expensive real fast.

    I would not bother with a processor upgrade from a performance standpoint but the graphics card could use an upgrade. It all depends on what kind of games you want to run on it and in what resolution. Please do check what your current system supports though (motherboard, power supply outlets etc) to avoid having to upgrade other stuff because of insufficient room.
     
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    Hi RF,
    Nothing on the disc cleanup to write home about. 500mb of thumbnails that's about it. I clean up the system all the time thanks..

    Just started reading about cloning but don't really understand it. Yet that is.. Probably the way I should go once or if i ever "get it"..

    I didn't want to get a SSD (solid state drive) because of the price is being hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a 2TB. But just looked and prices have come down substantially. Just like this one (Samsung) SATA-3/600-SSD

    So here is what I want to do.. Buy a ssd with only about 512gb of storage and use that for the operating system only ie windows, some apps and some games.. I would transfer the operating system from my existing 1TB shit hard drive buy a 2TB SSD hard drive put my pics, docs, and videos there. Maybe even install the shitty old 1Tb in there too. Just have to figure out how to do that myself.
    Just adding another hard drive is easy but the above isn't.

    No cloud for me.. No soup for you..
     
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    PACKER Las Vegas DEGENERATE! Are you?
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    Totally agree and will do that. Ssd it is. Wasnt my intention to speed up anything as is fast now but now I will kill 2 birds with one stone .
     
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    Yep as I just wrote above i want to do the ssd for the os. Just saw Ssd are nuch cheaper these days. Now the question is can i copy what's on the existing hd or do I have to download windows 10 and everything again? That sound difficult to me.

    Yes the process 3 is fine but will upgrade the graphics card. That's easy to do.

    Thank you
     
  10. Royal Flusher

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    If you are going to have only 1 SSD, having Windows on it is the way to go. A big storage drive doesn't have to be an SSD to be fast. I wouldn't hesitate to get a conventional drive for storage.

    You really want to avoid re-installing Windows and all the programs and all the settings and all your bookmarks and all your history and all your configuration stuff...

    When you clone a drive, you basically are making an exact copy of the original, with automatic adjustments made for the fact that the two drives might be different sizes and have some different characteristics.

    After the clone is complete, you can take your old drive out, and boot from the new one and everything will be exactly as you left it.

    Question for the others - do computer shops take on this sort of task? Best Buy? Worst Buy? I am out of touch with the specifics these days.
     
  11. PACKER

    PACKER Las Vegas DEGENERATE! Are you?
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    But when cloning i don't want everything to clone. Only windows operating system what else? Am I able to pick and choose what to clone? And finally what all do I need to clone?
    Also how do i physically do the cloning? Where?
    Big questions for you all i know. Thank you
     
  12. Royal Flusher

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    Clone the whole drive. Then start using the new drive and take stuff off/move stuff.
     
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    Really? 850gb of cloning? You can't pick and choose? Isn't that going to put a bunch of clutter in the new drive? Don't I want it to be "clean" except for windows and some files, programs and software i use?
     
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    Agreed with avoiding the cloud, especially for anything remotely personal. Maybe I'm just paranoid, and I know that it saves money, but it just makes me nervous. I also disagree with the suggestion about getting a huge SSD, because while you want something big enough to use for your OS and for launching programs, an average HDD can play videos, serve up photos and documents, etc., without flinching, and they're far cheaper.

    I'm not sure you necessarily need to mess around with trying to clone the drive, but what I would do is confirm how much of your drive space is being taken up by data (pictures, video, documents, etc.) as opposed to programs. I can tell you that if Fortnite and Minecraft are running slowly, it's almost certainly not because your drive is full, and those shouldn't be graphics-intensive programs. Something else you might want to consider is putting all your media files on either an additional drive, or even a home NAS device (which you can load up with all the drives you want). But, as someone with an XPS 8700, those things have a huge amount of expansion space, so you definitely can add additional drives and possibly even a second, linked graphics card without much of a problem. I might suggest hiring someone to do the actual installation, but that shouldn't cost too much.
     
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    Do not go to Best Buy. Unless Geek Squad got better since I worked there awhile ago, the kids working in that department are more about having fun and goofing off than actual work. Most computer shops will do pretty much anything you ask of them but depending on the issues or what you want done, can come at a hefty price.
     
  16. Royal Flusher

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    Yes, initially, everything on the source drive gets cloned. That's why you remove stuff from the new drive once that's done.
     
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    Here's an example article. It sounds like you need to do a bit more research until you get a handle on what cloning is all about.

    https://www.pcmag.com/feature/363387/how-to-clone-a-hard-drive
     
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    Darnit, read the pc mag, way over my head.
    Unless i can hire someone (or a friend who knows what they are doing) to stand over my shoulder (i would like to try to do it myself) as I do it there is no way in able.

    The graphics card, ram, upgrade fan and just adding a 2tb hdd is easy to do. But now i want to do the operating system thing with a ssd.. Anyone live in LA? Lol

    Thanks guys
     
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    Find a 12 year old kid - they can do it and reprogram your router at the same time. ;)
     
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    PACKER Las Vegas DEGENERATE! Are you?
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    Ok ladies and gents, found a great software to do cloaning.. Macrium reflect (its free for 30 days).
    Really easy to do even for me. One question i can't get an answer to. After i clone all 960gb to the ssd how do i delete all but the operating system? I know the obvious files, pics, games, docs, music and so on.

    What do I keep on this list pictured? [​IMG]
     
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