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Cosmo Slots, more than Fair

Discussion in 'Identity - Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas' started by Grid!, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. sparkydog

    sparkydog Palladium
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    Wish Grazie website was working...Cosmo has treated me so well compared to Grazie. I took a beating there.
     
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  2. Texaschameleon

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    Thanks for letting me know. I had no idea I could use free play without staying
     
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  3. Mr2BOBCATS

    Mr2BOBCATS Silver

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    Looks like I'm in the same camp a @Ritzcarlton89 and @chico7800

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    Running at 15% which I suppose per @Chuck would be within reasonable possibilities but it still hurts. This is all essentially over 5 days in September (on a 2-night stay) plus two more days on my current trip (4-night stay and I'm out of bankroll). I don't think abstaining from playing the next couple days is going to help my next offer but I'm not going to the bank machine to reload.
     
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  4. beanie03

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    that's how my last trip at bellagio was. blew thru 1200 FP and 2k cash in just under 1.5 hours. brutal.. hoping next trip in a few weeks is better.
     
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  5. bayoubengal

    bayoubengal World's Worst VP Player
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    Update from my trip last week, I am back to -0.55% on slots and VP for the year. Really helped by hitting AWAK along with an $800 and $700 hit on Mighty Cash and then a couple hundred more on $5 Pinball.
     
  6. momnkid

    momnkid Platinum
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    Finishing the year at 7%(179CO/193CI)
    May/June trip: $10,330/day avg.
    Sept/Oct trip: $11,648/day avg.
    Dec trip: $12,640/day avg.

    Wow. I knew I was cycling but this is Tour de France practice here LOL.

    So now I know to say yes if you ask me to pay $14K outright for airport limo transportation 6 times, 17 nights of lodging (10 in wraparound, 7 in fountain view studio), $250 in hotel credit (used for family Christmas gifts), $1.5K in food and beverage, four tickets to the best fun I've had Opium show and over $5K in freeplay.

    Thank you for a terrific year, Cosmo. I hope we can do this again sometime soon. :)
     
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  7. littlepiggie

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    I must be really unlucky and why I had so much of a hard time hitting a status. I literally got like 1 hand pay. It was ugh
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  8. Chuck

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    Yeah 20.7%, that is definitely getting into the range of not pretty, given the amount of coin-in you did.
     
  9. littlepiggie

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    After reading this thread I am due this year
     
  10. dvandentop

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    Damn thats brutal and only one hp
    Maybe time to change up machine choices
     
  11. littlepiggie

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    Yeah. I'm pumped. Heading out Feb 1. Buffalo. I. Hunting Buffalo and cleo
     
  12. SFGfan

    SFGfan Bronze
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    Am I getting reasonable offers from Cosmo with my play? Usually 4 nights Terrace studio or Terrace 1BR (not fountain view), no FP or FB credit until my 1st offer of 2019, which was only $100 FP. (2018 was 3 trips=11 nights)

    I have never had a jackpot at Cosmo (what a loser!) & I do a small bit of play at Aria & CET on most trips.

    2018 Slot Statistics
    Coin-Out
    $41,703.09
    Less: Coin-in
    $47,639.81
    Estimated Slot Win/(Loss)
    $-5,936.72 12.5%

    2017 Slot Statistics
    Coin-Out
    $17,203.19
    Less: Coin-in
    $19,464.99
    Estimated Slot Win/(Loss)
    $-2,261.80 11.6%

    2016 Slot Statistics
    Coin-Out
    $12,541.21
    Less: Coin-in
    $15,361.85
    Estimated Slot Win/(Loss)
    $-2,820.64 18.35% ouch
     
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  13. Chuck

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    That is about in line for 11 nights, that's a $4,330 average.

    The room you're being offered is in line with that play. The Dining Credit is in line. If you did $4,330/night on your last trip, I'd expect some freeplay. If I had to guess, I'd say your last trip for the year was a little lighter than the others, which would explain the lack of FP.

    On the other hand, you said your previous offers didn't include any dining credit, so hmmm. How much of your coin in is VP vs slots? I'm guessing not much VP, but a few thousand in VP might be the diff that's putting you under the threshold for some FP.
     
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  14. SFGfan

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    Thanks Chuck! That $100 is free play, I have never received any dining credit (not sure if they are valued differently). Yes, I believe the 3rd trip got the most play with 10,421 TP earned on "slots" over 4 nights . This did include 4-6 hours of .25 DDB VP play. I hope this helps to clarify.

    I really should track & understand this stuff better than I do.
    I assume the 137 Tier Points is VP play (since no 2x IP for Gold status), is that correct?
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      +137 Identity Points ($1.37)
      137 tier points earned toward your status
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      NOV. 05, 2018
      +6,892 Identity Points ($68.92) 2x
      3,446 tier points earned toward your status
    If my assumption is correct, my last trip I earned 9445 TP/base IP on slots ($23,612 CI) & 976 IP on VP ($5856 CI). Sorry to sidetrack this discussion for a moment :-D
     
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  15. Big Slotter/kdk

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    I can't complain too much, although this was only after one full day of play and a few hours of play one day earlier in the year. One thing I'll add is I have been playing at CET casinos in Vegas for over 10 years and NEVER had a handpay at them.

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  16. Chuck

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    Sorry, I misread your FP amount as dining credit somehow.

    Yes, VP gets labeled as "SLOTS" but gets broken out on a separate line because you don't get the 2x multiplier on it.

    So on November 5, on just plain slots, you did 3,446 base points, at $2,50 coin-in per base point, that's $8,615 coin-in.

    If you did $23,612 coin-in on slots over 4 nights on your November trip (leaving aside the VP), that's close to a $6k average per night and your latest offer is actually low, I'd expect you should be able to get a One Bedroom Fountain View (at least), plus probably closer to $400 - $450 in FP and $100 in dining credit. Based on your total 2018 coin in numbers, that November trip appears to probably be your highest of the year (unless you had another one after that).

    There will be some smoothing of the offer calculation based on longer history, but your last trip should carry by far the most weight.

    If your current offer came out after your November trip, and your November trip was your most recent, I'd say the offer is lower than I'd expect, nothing stands out as an obvious explanation.
     
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  17. Chuck

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    Yeah that's a 3% loss. No complaints allowed :D
     
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  18. momnkid

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    Look again @Chuck. He has a 3% WIN not loss. :) If he dares complain, I'll smack 'em. LOL Nice numbers @Big Slotter/kdk !

    @SFGfan , comparing your 2018 play to my 2014-15 play, you are getting the same as I got at that level. I didn't start seeing a F&B allowance until late in 2016 when I started to move my play from CET to Cosmo. Free play never moved above $400 until that time also.

    Edit: I lied. Just found my first email with KF, from late 2016, and it was $335 FP and $100 dining.
     
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  19. littlepiggie

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    Last trip 5k loss biggest win 300
     
  20. Chuck

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    I am misreading everything today. I'm totally mentally checked out, heading for LV Sat morning. :cool:
     
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