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Getting on Cosmo's radar

Discussion in 'Comps - General Comp Discussion' started by Sinnerman, May 30, 2019.

  1. Sinnerman

    Sinnerman Bronze

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    So I have been pretty loyal to CET over the last couple years, but this year, I am making the conscious effort to branch out to more casinos and build up my loyalty program with them. I have a trip coming up in August /. September. I have a comp stay at PH that I am planning on using, since I have a friend staying there.

    So I am definitely not staying at Cosmo, but I do want to stop by, get an identity card and show them some play so that I hopefully get an offer to stay with them in the future.

    So here my challenge, I don't want to burn my bridges with CET, so I am not reducing my plan there. Instead, I am thinking of just having a separate budget that I spend on Cosmo. I am a mix of slots, craps and BJ player, but I plan to mostly play slots at Cosmo. I was thinking of around $1000 for that budget. There is a chance that that budget might drop to $500 or rise to $2000 depending on how my gambling goes at PH. So here are my questions

    What do you guys think of that number? How many hours of play should I show them, given that I am not staying there , 2 hours, 4 hours? Also, what denom slots should I go for to rate a teaser offer? I want my slot play to be decently high enough, but I want it to last a couple hours at least.

    Lastly, I have heard that Cosmo gives bounce-back play a couple days after anyone plays there. When does that happen ... 1 day 2 days, a week? Should I avoid using the bounce-back play since it will show up as another day that I was on their property or is it irrelevant since Cosmo looks at trip theo more than daily theo.

    Thanks for the help.
     
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  2. bayoubengal

    bayoubengal World's Worst VP Player
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    Do you have any offers from Ceasers Palace or say Cromwell? You could have Kevin the slot VP that posts here take a look and see if it’s something he will match.

    A $1000 bankroll isn’t “a lot” if you’re trying to generate offers. On the tables you’re not going to get a lot back in comps. But at the same time $1000 on slots can evaporate really fast. That said, as a brand new player you’d be more likely to generate a teaser with some drop in play like this than I would since I’ve been playing there for years.

    If you want to stay there get in touch with Kevin. It’s a lot cheaper than $1000.
     
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  3. Sinnerman

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    Yeah, i might contact Kevin on here. I have offers from Bally's, PH, Harrah's and Rio but not from CP or Nobu. So not sure if they would match my PH offer though. The other option would be beefing up my bankroll a bit so I get some decent play in.
     
  4. Big Slotter/kdk

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    I agree with what bayoubengal said above too. Your best bet is to do an "offer match" with them and actually stay there and concentrate your play there.

    I didn't do the offer match but recently talked to a host for a while, and we even talked about this. He said they would match an offer from Caesars, and maybe Paris and PH but not the lower CET properties.

    However, I did something like you are thinking about myself to get on their radar. Last year I was at PH for 4 nights and by the last evening I was sick of their slots and losing there. As much as I was worried about hurting my play with CET I figured one day of half my normal wouldn't hurt too much, so I walked over to Cosmo.

    I played slots for about 4 hours there, and my average bet was probably around $2.50 per spin, ended up cycling between $2500 and $3000 coin-in during that time. I think I lost less than $200 doing this.

    I started getting room offers that were good only on the less busy days, with $25 freeplay, but only for the basic "city" room which doesn't have the outdoor terrace.

    Once I took the first offer and played a full day my offers have been great ever since, get the premium rooms, and no resort fees even though I haven't reached gold yet. If you can get up to the $5000 coin-in per day you will get some nice offers with the premium rooms, etc. My most recent offer didn't include resort fees and I haven't made it to gold yet.

    Also $1000 per day will get you a lot of coin-in there unless you are super unlucky. Every time I have gone I have either won or at least found my bankroll lasts a lot longer than any CET casino.

    I can't speak for table games there though, haven't played any there yet myself.
     
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  5. Figment76

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    My advice would be to go ahead and sleep at pH since you have rooms, but burn them. Take all of your play to Cosmo for the trip, it's just across the street. It takes so little to get back in cet's good graces for the lower tier props that you really don't have much to lose.
     
  6. Sinnerman

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    Yeah that 's a great point. The only reason I want to continue having CET in my back pocket is because I go to AC a couple times a year and I like having a casino company that operates across both cities
     
  7. joshj

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    Caesars generally rates you by market once you have established a history there - a drop in Vegas play shouldn't impact your AC offers, from my understanding. Where you might get hurt is new market offers, if you plan on going somewhere you've never played before, like Laughlin or Reno.
     
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  8. TIMSPEED

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    Take $1000 play slots $5 a push for four hours in one day.
    Do not take the bounceback three days later.
    Manage your ADT wisely and you’ll get good shit.
    If you intend on $x dollars over a trip at Cosmo, play it all on ONE DAY; then put your jndentity card in your pocket and never take it back out.
     
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  9. Sinnerman

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    Thanks a lot @TIMSPEED , that was really useful. I will do exactly that. I forgot that using the bounceback cash would result in an additional day of play that might hurt my ADT.
     
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