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The Death of the Vegas Laurel/Diamond Lounges

Discussion in 'Total Rewards - Caesars Entertainment' started by Grid!, May 17, 2021.

  1. Grid!

    Grid! Platinum

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    Anyone else on here seen/heard the rumblings that the Vegas, and possibly other, Laurel Lounges are on the way out?

    Scott over at Vital Vegas finally dropped a piece on this, but rumors of their demise have been circulating ever since El Dorado took control.

    I bugged a few of my Vegas hosts, who off the record seemed to have confirmed it was true. No one said so directly, just "They heard that as well". Or, "There will be other changes too".

    Also hearing that the 2 free show tickets will be out as well. Not that CET has many shows open now, and even more shows are set to shut down while they "refocus" their efforts in Vegas.
     
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    There have been rumors about it for years. Caesars offers way more perks for tier status than other casinos, and for years we've been hearing about the demise of lounges, or free parking, VIP check-in, the death of the buffet,or the Diamond celebration dinner...

    Caesars has been opening their lounges in other markets, so that seems like a strange step if they are just going to close again. They are also opening Bacchanal this month as well.

    So far none of that has happened. Vital Vegas is wrong more often then not. Remember 5 years ago when Luxor was going to be demolished?

    Vegas casinos are still struggling to re-open, unlike local casinos, as they rely more on business travel and international travel as their most profitable segments, and they haven't even started to recover yet. Local casinos are usually mostly focused on local markets. Casinos is Vegas are also struggling to re-hire, and negotiate with the unions. They've also seen a demographic shift, where most of the demand is coming from neighboring states, and they are coming more frequently, which means that less money is being spent on each visit. They are still taking heavy losses each quarter.

    I wouldn't be shocked if all the major casinos scale back some of their perks, and try to focus on recovering right now, but Vital Vegas is just trying to get some clicks and stir up the pot... The Facebook groups are already filled with conspiracy theories and rumors about Eldorado, MGM, and Cosmo..
     
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  3. Grid!

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    To be fair, I am not citing VV as a source. I only mentioned that they are finally talking about it as well. I talked to other people, including my CET hosts, and they are hearing it as well.

    Ive been to Diamond Lounges coast to coast. The Vegas ones were always a joke, as those casinos are much more of a destination resort, with many other offerings for food/drinks. My post is about Vegas LL. Not all LL, but I wouldn't be shocked if those started going away as well..

    Does Harrahs in Atlantic City give up their Lounge, when Borgata across the street still have their Amphora Lounge for higher club cards? Nope, at least not right now.

    Does Harrah's in Vegas close theirs (do they even have one?) when no one else in Vegas has a lounge tied to their player club? Sure seems like it.

    Them reopening Bacchanal, which has long made them money, has nothing to do with the tiny giveaway lounges.

    Remember when the Diamond Lounges were free to anyone Diamond and up? Rumors of them charging for low level Diamonds popped up, and people said it would never happen. All of a sudden, it costs 1,000 Reward credits for you, and another 1,000 for your friend, and people just got used to that.

    I agree, the Lounge is a very unique perk for higher card level holders. But that might be its demise. Being unique, means they aren't really losing people to another club that still offers the same perk. When hardly any clubs are doing the same.
     
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    I don't see ElDo reducing too much of the perks.
    There are people who play up to Seven Stars just for the nursing home buffet in the lounges. Why take away the sole reason people don't wander to another casino? That said, I can definitely see a renovation or expansion of the card levels. Create perks that are new or innovative, then build barriers to getting the perk. Imagine if the Caesars app offers Starbucks ordering, delivered direct to your machine, using your RCs. But only for Seven Stars. Etc.
     
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    I'm amazed at the love for these things. It's nice to sit down and get a free drink instead of having to play I guess, but the actual food was like one step above a Ponderosa buffet lol
     
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    I love a good conspiracy theory especially about Vegas. Can you point me to some of these Facebook groups so that I can read up.
     
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    I don't know about you but I've enjoyed watching baseball games where the Rio used to be!

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    Have you been in a Vegas LL? Think dry ass wings, some generic potato chips and cookies. Offering that is not the sole reason people do not wander into another casino. Perhaps taking that away, would get those same people to wander into their actual dining establishments? I'm sure there are many reasons for them to drop them.

    One rumor being circulated, is that some of those spaces will eventually be flipped into 7 Star Lounges.

    CET has long wanted to do away with low level Diamonds. Them being billed $10 each for those wings and cookies was one way. El Dorado did not but CET to run them as "Business as Usual". They did so to try and make them profitable once more.
     
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    My local Diamond lounge has a decent assortment of hot foods, salads and even soft serve ice cream machines and desert bar. Vegas Lounges were always ugly cousins to what else was out there. And they never really seemed to be all that busy anyway.
     
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    I was too busy watching baseball at the stadium that replaced the Rio...

    Unfortunately, I believe this one. MGM has never had any sort of real tier-based lounges, and it's just how it is out here. A move like this is straight out of the ERI playbook.
     
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    I went to my first diamond lounge at Paris 2/3 years ago. Got some wings and some type of fried vegetable, drinks were good, food bad and never been back
     
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    Were they potatoes? :p
     
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    I want to say maybe fried cauliflower? Something probably on the clearance rack
     
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    Just as an aside, the fried crispy cauliflower at Catch is one of the best hidden gems in Vegas. I hate cauliflower and yet absolutely loved it. Props to @VegasMonkey for teaching me about that dish.
     
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    It’s about bringing a few friends, maybe they aren’t diamond, and having the bartender make anything you want and the way you want it, bs with people and enjoy. Maybe watch a game. We know we can get free drinks when at the table but it’s not the same atmosphere. You don’t go for the food, although Caesars does have a few good meals there and some good soup a few days a week.


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    Holy crap, I'm not sure how I missed this, but I distinctly recall going to a Ponderosa during summer camp one year, while we took a trip to King's Dominion. What I remember the most is my friend calling it "Ponderosa Shitshack". He was not wrong.
     
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    M always seems to like restaurants that end up failing, so I've actually ate at a decent amount of these. The best Ponderosa buffets can outdo Vegas LLs. Haha But most of them are overpriced crap and are closed. The one in Wisconsin Dells was a pretty good one. But looks like Covid gave it a KO.

    The only one I ate at that's still open is Kissimmee, FL. Arguably the best one I ever ate at, but that was in 2010.

    What's scary is the number of them in Puerto Rico (19) now almost matches the number in the Continental US (25).
     
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    This thread is making me miss Sizzler.
     
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    We have decided to switch to MLife even if CET re-open Laurel Lounge, it is just not worth it to lose thousands of dollars to get to Diamond Plus. MLife is giving us free room at their nicer properties and more free play and food credits than CET without losing as much money as at CET. I would rather pay the resort fee than losing thousands of dollars, maybe we will get the resort fee comp someday if we give it more play.
     
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