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Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by VegasMonkey, Jan 29, 2018.

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  1. NickPappageorgio

    NickPappageorgio ¿Quién vigila a los vigilantes?
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    On this last trip I went days without hitting much of anything on the draw other than 2 pair. a 3OAK felt like a minor miracle when it happened and a 4OAK seemed unpossible. Wednesday, Thursday and Friday were fair. I had 10 4OAK's and 1 straight flush, nothing premium though. On Saturday, after we moved to the Strip, I had a small run of 4OAKS (no premiums) at the Palms and one more straight flush and then everything fell off a cliff. I might as well have been handing 100's directly to the counting room.

    Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday I averaged less than 1 4OAK per day, none of them premium. Throw into that mix strip slots (blech) a whiff Roulette session and possibly the worst 3-card session ever and you have the makings of a bad gambling trip. Contrast that to my February trip where I got 38 4OAKS with many premiums on 2 less days playing and it's hard to believe I was in the same city, playing on many of the same machines.

    Except....variance.

    Most people don't believe that though. Not saying people on here don't, but most people.
     
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  2. Sindustry

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    Yup, and hot and cold runs can last a looooong time, as what we play in a lifetime is a fraction of meaningful calculations to the true percentage of the game. For now, I’m not going to be a slave to any particular game...just going to keep learning as many variations as I can and play what seems to be working at the time. I’ll get my TDB fix on vp.com lol.
     
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    My thoughts exactly...lol (not a new hit...same pic as I posted before)

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  4. htj

    htj Hot Tub Johnny
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    Here's a little royal i hit with @C-Stud this past weekend. The "new" dream card (said in a sultry voice) is pretty interesting with the increased paytable. I didn't check the dream card frequency on the help screen, but if it's the standard, it's a whopping 97% game according to the wizard.

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  5. Riders

    Riders DSTP Degenerate
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    I am still a sucker for TDB... so you will still see me punishing myself.
     
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  6. htj

    htj Hot Tub Johnny
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    I need to post this one from last weekend too, b/c i know you all can feel my pain. A nice hit, but oh what could have been in so many ways...

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  7. tringlomane

    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    "Dream Card Winner!" I hate that damn paytable though. Were you holding 3 to a flush sometimes? I bet most won't!

    Optimal Strategy:
    https://wizardofodds.com/games/vide...-2-d-4-d-5-d-7-d-8-d-25-d-40-d-80-d-50-d-800/

    They should have upped the Dream Card frequency (because that's the fun part anyway right???) and made it standard 6/5 Bonus, imo.
     
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  8. P cubed

    P cubed Silver

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    Well, consider that while playing TDB you are giving up hundreds of credits per hour on the trip payouts - compared to even the swingy DDB. It all evens out when the kicker quads come. But if you go on a kicker quad drought, the hole gets real deep real quickly. And, kicker droughts aren't a rare event (after all, catching a kicker quad is a many thousand hands/per).

    I get suckered into the game because one of my locals offers 9/7 TDB (99.5%) while their DDB is 9/6 (98.98%). I've never had a day where I've caught 3 or 4 kicker quads.
     
  9. htj

    htj Hot Tub Johnny
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    ha, no, i had no idea what the strategy adjustments were. We found the machine at like 3am and i didn't even realize the paytable was different until @HBomb wondered why we got paid extra on trips. All's well that ends with a royal though!
     
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    Love me some DC!
     
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    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    But you're playing only single line, right? How long are your sessions in hands typically? Hopefully you don't do marathons if you haven't had 3+ yet!

    These are the chances of hitting 3+ kicker quads on single line 9/7 TDB based on session length.

    1000 hands...0.2%
    2000 hands...1.33%
    3000 hands...3.77%
    4000 hands...7.52%
    5000 hands...12.37%
     
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  12. ACMike

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    Productive hit & run at Ocean today. This is why you break an Aces-high dealt full house!

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  13. tringlomane

    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    Nice break!

    Hmmm...that sounds like a good goal for me in Vegas next week. I've still haven't pulled a broken full house off.
     
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    P cubed Silver

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    Sobering stats.

    Marathons on TDB, heck no.

    According to VPW/Alpax, the BR to all but guarantee only 2000 hands on 9/7 TDB is 3600 credits. I generally take 800 credits, and if tilting I get another 800 credits. Locally, hitting a kicker quad sends me to the exits. Vegas, at the Cromwell, I'll camp for the evening and bang away.
     
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    Yikes. I generally just hit TDB to play some frenzy hands, any sustained play is generally on double double. Looks like that's generally a good play, as I'm never starting with 3,600 credits
     
  16. tringlomane

    tringlomane Theoretical Video Poker Addict
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    But what's the RoR on that though? 1%? I like to overroll myself, but I will leave empty handed more than 1 in 100. :(
    DDB with Double STP has a similar variance to TDB, fyi. ;)
     
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    Sissy. You should be playing 10 line hot roll on TDB.
     
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  19. Goldenknight

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    Blake and I tried a couple weeks ago...it was less than ideal
     
  20. ACMike

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    Dreamcard Winner....

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