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When will you be willing to return to Vegas?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by MGMSpringfield, Apr 5, 2020.

  1. MGMSpringfield

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    I think other than Vegas, most casinos have voluntarily gone non-smoking.....even the tribal casinos here, Foxwoods and Mohegan.....both can play by their own rules but both have gone non smoking, temporarily at least.

    As a non-smoker it's a huge improvement at those venues.
     
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    Delta is doing a great job. I’ve been on 4 flights this month and felt comfortable flying.
     
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    Marriott does a great job, their properties cures the rooms for I believe a minimum of 24 hours in between guests. I just stayed at one of their hotels for 2 weeks for work.
     
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    You've definitely pointed out one of the flaws in the policy in Vegas. The other huge gaping hole is dining. No one is wearing a mask for the 1-3 hours that they're inside the fine-dining establishments. How does this make sense????
     
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    It makes sense *if* those fine dining establishments have other restrictions in place; such as spreading out the tables, limiting group sizes, limiting overall capacity, screening incoming guests, adding plexiglass, masking wait staff, etc.

    I'm very pro-mask wearing. But what people really need to understand that masks are an *additional* (and simple) measure over and above all the other, more effective and also simple measures of distancing and hand hygiene. I'd be far more concerned about a restaurant eliminating all other precautions in favor of adding a "mask unless actively eating" policy.

    The role of all public places (& businesses) is to put as many measures in place as possible to reduce the risk to be as low as possible. It's impossible for places where groups of people will be to have zero risk. That's where individual risk assessment and acceptance comes in - if a restaurant isn't screening incoming guests or isn't spacing people apart then the individual needs to assess whether that increased risk is acceptable to them or not. If not, then don't go. And the more individuals who "vote with their wallets", the more pressure will be on businesses & public places to further reduce risk.

    I'm hoping that here in Ontario that for when the next wave happens businesses are assigned a risk score rather than being deemed "essential" or not. Then tell those high-risk businesses that unless they reduce their risk somehow that they'll be the first to close down. That would motivate all businesses to voluntarily be as low risk as possible.

    With restaurants in particular, it seems unlikely that spreading out tables, limiting groups sizes, limiting overall capacity, etc all be able to preserve any level or profitability. So governments need to help with this by encouraging restaurants to be open with risk limitations in place without worrying about the financial impact. I'm pretty sure that right now most restaurants lose less money by being closed entirely, which is not sustainable either.
     
  6. Figment76

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    I’m trying to go back again next week but can’t find anyone willing to come with me and me going without a handler is a recipe for disaster.
     
  7. JazzBaby85

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    Yeah it's a big issue.... read someplace, 70% higher chance of contracting in restaurant, I don't know how true that is but, I'm not taking that chance.... next week I booked Prime Steakhouse outside I booked Spago outside ( not sure it's open? ) and I'm going to eat at Tom's Urban patio. I also spoke with my host @ MGM and his wife is from Thailand. I'm taking a cab over to a Thai restaurant that has an outdoor patio not too far from the strip highly recommended. For lunches will be in our Cabana. Maybe I'm being over-the-top but I don't want to take my mask off in a public place inside in Las Vegas. I did purchase paper bendable straws to take down to the casino to sneak under my mask. Again I know I'm not being super safe just by being there. I think we all have to do what we feel comfortable with.
     
  8. Rdator

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    Well, my plans for August were changed this weekend. Three of the four in my group don’t want to go anymore. It has nothing to do with fear of flying or even being in Las Vegas. It was entirely the restaurant situation. My wife and her two friends are major foodies. They are the ones who will hit three restaurants for one meal (appetizer at one place, main course at a second and desert at a third one). With so many places closed or with limited hours, they won’t find the trip as enjoyable relative to the inconvenience of having to wear a mask most of the time and trying to social distance while out and about. I know I don’t want to be there four nights on a solo trip so I may try to do a solo trip for two nights still.
     
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    I will throw out some random observations after returning from Vegas for 4 nights at Bellagio. Mask wearing is pretty much mandatory EVERYWHERE now. I was at the cosmo and even sips of a drink and the pitboss was telling me to mask up, so even they are enforcing it pretty strictly now. The pool scene is funny. You need to be masked unless walking to and from or in the pool. Security was walking around NON stop enforcing this and telling people to mask up. No mask? No worries, the pool staff will come to you with tongs in hand to supply you with a mask. Many things are still closed or close early. Saturday night I was wanting gelato at the B and it was closed, this was around 10pmish. The social distancing is out the window, but at least you have the Mask policy in full force currently. I am happy to have gone, but won't return until things become more normal in Vegas again. My thinking is probably not until next spring/summer the earliest. I think this whole thing has to work its way through our society/culture and then we will be done with this, but this pandemic strikes everyone differently so thats the big variable. I don't think a vaccine will be ready or effective in the short amount of time, and who knows what side effects will be of this new vaccine. Vegas is Vegas, what I went to was a very mild and subdued version of it. It was ok, but I like to gamble without plexiglass and masking. I like to eat at any restaurant at the bar area and not many places were open or with limited capacity. The pool was ok but again, just not the same before all this obviously. If you go with low expectations you should be fine, but I think theres many other options that are better at the moment, but once normality comes back, nothing beats Vegas! Nothing.....! ;)
     
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    Lot of good points Jay----still fun, but a bit annoying. The masks are good, the crowds are not. I think if everyone quits going I would not mind it as much. The masks at the pool are a killer and the fact that everyone is stuffed in the pool without masks makes it much less effective anyway. Also restaurants at Aria felt more crowded than at Palazzo for me. It was kind of a bad combination of annoyances and risk. I'm skipping my August solo trip, but still scheduled for Sept trip with larger group. Its worth it to me with the buddies, not solo. I don't feel very confident either will happen though, but truly don't know what to expect.
     
  11. 44inarow

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    If it helps, the gist of Sisolak's press conference today was that he thought it was a bit of a mistake to shut down "all bars" instead of doing more targeted enforcement.

    Sort of. It's in the statute that municipalities can't prohibit smoking. Any individual property can do what they want. But Chairwoman Morgan and Governor Sisolak have both been pretty clear that they don't think they have the authority to unilaterally override a statute.

    Mostly agreed on both points. I am incredibly pro-mask, and admittedly have little patience for people who just don't want to do it for "reasons". And just about anything that can have a positive impact on the disease spread is pretty much fine with me. But I struggle to see how a bunch of close-together tables is any less problematic than a distanced bar-top for solo diners. And people sitting at a VP bar with plexiglass dividers are no less separated than people at a blackjack table.

    There's a certain amount of risk baked into daily life, and we can't just live in a bunker forever, but we should be doing what we can. However, I don't 100% agree with the "vote with their wallets" perspective, because it's not like going on a shoddy amusement park ride, if they catch or spread something, it can have broad effects.

    At the end of the day, I just want people to be able to come to Vegas and feel safe.
     
  12. UCLA Girl

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    My coworker has family members who went to Vegas this past weekend and she texted me a few times to take a look at their social media accounts. Is Intrigue at the Wynn open? I believe that’s where they were on Friday night. Most of them weren’t wearing masks at all or had them pulled down. They were definitely at Tao on Saturday night and no one was wearing a mask, including the groups of random people who I saw dancing in the background.

    She said that this side of the family believes that it’s a conspiracy. There were various IG story posts from them where I could hear casino staff telling them to put a mask on.
     
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    But he could also call a special session of the legislature if he thought it was worth a temp ban on smoking...

    Because at the business level not many casinos have made the choice. I did go to one (Blue Chip in Indiana) on Thursday. But nationwide, outside of NJ, the temp non smoking casinos are rare to say the least.
     
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    There's already a special session called for this week, mostly focused on things like criminal justice reform, election procedures, and worker protections. I'm completely with you on the substantive policy, I just don't think this is top-of-mind for them compared to what else is on the agendaww, especially given the marathons they had on the first session, which was mostly about budgetary issues. I certainly wouldn't mind being proven wrong, though!
     
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    New Criterion: not going until Picasso is open.
     
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    I'm 99% sure that I'm cancelling my Aug 11th trip to Aria. Really blows because I really do enjoy 4 days of nonstop slotting there - 5-7 times a year.
     
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    no ces convention is a huge hit to Vegas conventions In whole.

    will be an interesting rest of the year


    also mgm laying off almost all involved with shows is just another big nail in the normalcy coffin
     
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    Found $22 rt airfare. Going to try for aug 16-20
    @44inarow how have the sun-thurs crowds been? I promised the mrs it would be petty empty.
     
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    I’ll be there August 9-15 (sun-fri) I’ll let you know how the crowds are during the week!
     
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